| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 08:17:52 PM PST |
I've been playing guitar for ever and drums would be a cool new thing. Im thinking of a Tama "rockstar" set with new skins, a Ziljackoffian medium-ride, crash, hi-hat cymbal package, and an Iron cobra double bass etc.(Good set, with everything that is needed to start playin) I predicked it wont take me long to start learning shit and play all kinds of gnarly cock rock beats.
But,
if I get this new amp I can start playing in bands like the fucking same day because its a really good amp (good as it gets, loud as fuck, an sounds perfect ect.). Its the same amp that both the goons in guttermouth use. Ive played guitar for ever and its what I know best.
What should I get for X-mas? |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 08:46:04 PM PST |
| guitar players are a dime a dozen.. drummers however are not so common.. get the drums man |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 08:53:59 PM PST |
I play death metal AND fast punk on guitar, you dont see people like that everyday.
The crazy thing about drums is that 2 people I know just got new drumset for X-mas so far. Everyones drumming. And I know I'd be good at it. I've wanted to get a set for a longtime.
But I've also wanted to get a really good amp so I can start playing shows and stuff. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 08:54:53 PM PST |
| buy a shitty drumset and an alright amp |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 09:32:49 PM PST |
| haha why dont you just buy a bread-maker. |
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| Posted by: DTW00000 |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 09:37:53 PM PST |
I already have an alright amp, but the difference between an alright amp and a good amp is pretty big. Either it is loud enough and sounds good, or its loud enough and sounds not so good.
Im a "has to have the best or nothing" kind of person, so I dont think I would be happy having something thats kind of half ass.
The amp and drumset cost about the same, drumset maybe a little more, but just a little. Both are over a grand and under a grand and a half. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Monday, December 23rd 2002 @ 11:47:09 PM PST |
ask for a gun and then get both.
seriously i would say get the drums.
-z- |
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| Posted by: Zach Friendly |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 10:32:24 AM PST |
get the drums, but fuck tama...get a mapex set.
As for cymbals, get the cheapest pack (packs have all the ones you need) buying seperate can get really expansive. |
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| Posted by: diecowdie |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:10:53 AM PST |
| What kind of amp are you looking at. I build amps for fun, I've aslo been playing drums for 10 years, and am going to make my amps available to the public soon. These pics are of the second amp I built. They are much better now. |
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| Posted by: russoloco |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:11:33 AM PST |
| I also second getting a mapex set. Saturn pro is the way to go. |
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| Posted by: russoloco |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:51:37 AM PST |
| ha I'd say go Orange County Percussion if you have all the money in the world.. but if not Mapex should go fine. |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 12:24:15 PM PST |
| a good amp. |
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| Posted by: da pheesh |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 12:42:10 PM PST |
russoloco,
Hey, Im also a guitar nerd, I have a Gibson LP studio, Marshal AVT 4x12, and a crate vintage club 120watt tube head, I use a boss ds-1 for the distortion because the distortion on the crate is really fat and bluesy, and I like high gain sounds so thats why I use the pedal.
If I get the amp I probably wont need a new one EVER. Its big enough, loud enough, and sounds good enough to stick with for ever, It will probably be either a mesa 3-channel dual rectifier head, or a mesa mark IV head.
The drumset I am looking at is a Tama rockstar fusion, and I will get a tama iron cobra double bass and Remo ebony pinstripe heads, (Not sure what cymbal pack or throne yet).
The drums will cost about $1500, the amp on the other hand will probably cost around $800-$1200. So the amp is on the cheaper side, while the drums are alot of fucking money. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 12:44:11 PM PST |
| get the amp. only pay that much for a drum set if you have been playin |
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| Posted by: Signature |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 12:49:45 PM PST |
Well, if I get a drumset I KNOW I use the fuck out of it. When playing guitar for hours a day gets boring a drumset sounds like the cure.
The reason the drumset is so much is because Im not getting a cheap beginners set, its a mid-level set thats good enough to do anything with. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:01:06 PM PST |
| Drums get boaring too, if you have no one to play with |
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| Posted by: Signature |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:09:02 PM PST |
| Yeah, but if I put on headphones I can play along with cd's, like when I play guitar. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:09:59 PM PST |
| I think NOFX's green corn is the funnest song to play on guitar Im gonna go play it right now. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:15:19 PM PST |
I don't even a own a prodution amp anymore I just make them to sound how I want. I don't even own any pedals because the distortion is catered to my taste. If I decide to go public with these things I am going to make 50, 20 and 2 watt versions. The dirty channel is based on the SLO 100 circuit, which mesa ripped off, and the clean is a Fender Tweed type. Anything over 50 watts is just ridiculuously loud. Even with a loud drummer I've never turned the 50 watt I made for my brother above 4 so the power tube distortion never gets to shine.
I own a tama iron cobra double and a DW delta II accelerator and I seem to play the tama more because the DW broke and left a bad taste in my mouth.
I would get the drums because they are a great way to let out angst. |
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| Posted by: russoloco |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:33:49 PM PST |
| I'm with russoloco. Anything over fifty watts is silly. You can't turn it up loud enough to get any gain out of it and the couple of hundred extra they charge you for it you could use to buy a real nice sounding 50 watt head. |
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| Posted by: tim timms |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:41:42 PM PST |
Well clint, Scott and Derek both play with Mesa 100watt dual rectifiers right? I saw Scott has a rackmount one.
Are those wicked loud during practice?
Here is the deal, Im looking at 2 amps:
1. Mesa mark IV, 85 watt with half power switch (I think it cuts it to 25watts or something).
2.Mesa Dual recto 3-channel 100 watts.
I want it to be loud enough to play a medium size to larger size gigs.(no bedroom shows or anything) |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:45:56 PM PST |
russoloco,
Thats awesome that you building amps, you should check this website out, its a message bored and you can talk about amps and stuff to.
The Soldano SLO is an awesome amp, Peavey ripped off the tone for the 5150, but the SLO has a better clean. But the SLO's cost a bunch, too much for me. How much do you sell your amps for? I wouldnt mind having a SLO style distortion and a fender twin clean haha, can that be done?
Im looking closest at the Mesa mark IV, it has many sounds and the knobs to prove it. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 01:51:38 PM PST |
| Oh yeah, the message bored link. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 03:56:49 PM PST |
| Yeah, they both play em and I personally don't like either of their sounds. Eric does play out of a little fender and I prefer that to the boogies. They're loud but.......If I was you I'd go for the Mark IV. You'll get alot more gain(that boogie sound) at a lower vol. Trust me 85 watts is plenty loud. If you had a 50 watt boogie (like I do. DC-5) or a Marshall you'd never really turn it up. After 2 or 3 the amp does not get any louder it just distorts way more and usually you get a sound that's pretty hairy. not in the good way either. But, then again I play bass so.......it's just my 2cents. |
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| Posted by: tim timms |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 04:57:09 PM PST |
Neongreen,
The fender twin clean can be done since all my amps have totally separate channels, unlike soldano boogie. But there are about a million different schems for the fender twin. DO you have a model you prefer? email me at [email protected] for prices and other info. Just to let you know it would be under $1000 dollars for me to build it. |
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| Posted by: russoloco |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 06:59:08 PM PST |
| If your going to get a tama set spend the extra 200 hundred for the tama rockstar customs they will last a lot longer. As far as mesas they always need repair and the warranty repair guys are normally out surfing!You should check out the Peavey Triple XXX head. Its really powerful and has two different rad distortion channels! Theres my two cents! |
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| Posted by: Warren |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 10:15:52 PM PST |
| The peavey xxx... more computer than man and too loud for most heart rates... |
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| Posted by: russoloco |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 10:20:31 PM PST |
| damn it..I get a fucking drum kit..(shit or not I was first) and now everyone is getting one...fucking copy cats. |
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| Posted by: DONT DO IT |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:01:40 PM PST |
| Hey DDI, guess what I am getting for Christmas!? |
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| Posted by: broadways |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:07:04 PM PST |
| a volcom tattoo? |
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| Posted by: DONT DO IT |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:21:33 PM PST |
| where can I get a picture of this "Volcom Tattoo" |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Tuesday, December 24th 2002 @ 11:32:17 PM PST |
| HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAA AAAAAAAHAHHHAHAHHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAH HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHHHH HHHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHHAAAAAHHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAAAAA |
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| Posted by: Star Spangled Boner |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 03:57:38 PM PST |
| The only reason you'd want a head with more than fifty watts is if you plan on setting up a full stack or more. I'm pretty sure you don't need that unless you're Eddie Van Halen. Though it's nice to know that you have that much power and you're not driving your amp to the max just to get it as loud as you want it. Hey Clint. Is that true? That it's better not to drive a 50 watt amp too much or it might heat up pretty bad and maybe be stressfull to it ot am I filling this guys head full of bullshit. It seems logical to me, but so doesn't drinking your own piss if I was Kevin Costner on waterworld. Merry fucking christmas by the way..... Drums are cool though. They're not as easy as they look though, so keep that in mind. Because if you spend a bunch of money on the drums and lose interest you'l be kicking yourself in the ass for not buying the amp. Just go with what you think you'll be more apt to use... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:16:28 PM PST |
| I want a drumset too, bah.. but whatever, I can live without it |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:21:33 PM PST |
| Bahhh humbug... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:21:58 PM PST |
| yea dude? you get anything good? the best thing I got is an AFI shirt |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:28:21 PM PST |
| Sounds like everyone is jolly and gay at your place if you got an AFI shirt. Just kidding. I don't mind AFI.... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:29:34 PM PST |
| haha.. AFI rocks man, anyway.. compared to the other shit I got my dad got me some fuckin' tool set like I'm gonna ever use that shit.. I can barely even start my car let alone perform maintnance on it |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:29:44 PM PST |
| Buttheads |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:30:40 PM PST |
| Amanda got me a kick ass money clip with my initials on it and a couple of t-shirts. All the other stuff I got was just pictures of new family members and money. I don't have any money now though since I spent it on everyone for christmas so I just put toilet paper in my money clip just in case I run into a stinky situation... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:31:45 PM PST |
| i got a guitar...and i just jerked off to shania twain :) |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:32:21 PM PST |
| TS is pretty common dude she probably bought that shit at a pawn shop.. I mean it is a great gift !! |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:33:15 PM PST |
| yeah, but now you can take apart his toilet and watch him freak out when he's goes to take dump and finds his porcelain throne in pieces..... Did you just call me chicken? |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:34:13 PM PST |
| Yeah, Smith, I just called you chicken. |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:34:29 PM PST |
| yes I'm downloading Back to the future 3 right now and that Summers cock got the DVD trilogy |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:35:18 PM PST |
| Pawn shop or not doesn't matter much to me. If she did then I salute her for being creative.... Her family took me out for lobster the other night and then we all went to her uncles house and got drunk. It was a good christmas. Amandas family rules... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:35:28 PM PST |
| yep, i sure did...and boy oh boy is it great...im gonna watch it right now...BACK to BACK to BACK to the future |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:36:42 PM PST |
ha nerd.....
man what'd you guys drink? |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:38:05 PM PST |
| I got the t5rilogy on the day it was released and it had a glitch on it. I was pissed. I had forgotten what a great movie that was though... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:39:27 PM PST |
| yea dude, I got Super Troopers on the release day and the same thing happened I was pissed so I took it back 3 times and the same glitch was there, so I was just like fuck it. |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:41:08 PM PST |
| You name it and it was there. I had to drive home that night from san diego back to long beach(about an hour and a half drive) so I was drinking coffee and baileys, but before that I had two glasses of red wine at dinner and three beers at her house before we left and a rum and coke at her uncles before the two baileys and coffee's... I didn't have any water or booze for the way home so by the time I got there i was hung over... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:41:47 PM PST |
| So did you fuck it? |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:42:30 PM PST |
| yea, I'm still drinking my fuckin' whisky all the time but I've kinda moved to some brandy too, bah, whatever it takes as long as it is powerful enough to do the job and minimize the actual drinkin' |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:44:44 PM PST |
| Alrighty then. Well you tow have a merry christmas and all that nice stuff that people say around these times. I gotta go wash the hang over off in the shower... later... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:44:58 PM PST |
| you've gotta come back to missouri so we can drink like fuckin' fish, haha this needs to happen soon Mr Smith especially since you guys are too good to play here might as well puke here |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:45:28 PM PST |
| Doc: There's that word again. heavy? Why is everything so heavy in the future?... Bye... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:46:33 PM PST |
| bye Mr. Anti Missouri |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:46:57 PM PST |
| St.Louis? I might be coming home in the spring to see my folks. I'm not sure yet though... Okay. i gotta run now.. See you's later... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:47:21 PM PST |
| later |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 04:53:59 PM PST |
| later, mcfly |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 05:03:10 PM PST |
| that fuckin vest.. haha the fuckin' drying thing woo gotta see that |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 05:21:00 PM PST |
| i crash into shit lots of times |
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| Posted by: Biff Tannen |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 05:21:58 PM PST |
| yea.... "I hate manure" like anyone likes it. |
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| Posted by: chrissneed |
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| Wednesday, December 25th 2002 @ 05:32:38 PM PST |
To rap this up......
I've decided to get the new amp, a Mesa mark IV head, 85watts. Same amp that eric from NOFX used alot ha, I like his sound not bad.
And Ty, it doesnt hurt amps to play them loud,tube amps are bestwhenthey are cranked, because the tubes get saturated with all kinds of rock and roll juice and they shoot loads of distortion fun.
Man, it will be great having an amp that actually sounds like I want it. |
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| Posted by: neongreen |
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| Thursday, December 26th 2002 @ 08:50:09 AM PST |
| Fine job! Neons right. that's why 50watts is beter than 100. anyway, Merry day after Ty! I'll see you on Sun. |
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| Posted by: tim timms |
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| Tuesday, January 7th 2003 @ 04:19:58 AM PST |
| I just got an amp, I was playing accoustic with my electric guitar. I just used a voice recorder and played with a good dstortion effect and it sounds like a bad produced actual album, i mean i could write 4 lupus albums in an afternoon. drums are boring, it makes too much noise and once you stop progressing you're bored and you regress and you don't want to progress again. |
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| Posted by: Toto Joe |
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| Tuesday, January 7th 2003 @ 07:23:17 AM PST |
| Tony post up some of those MP3s from your site man. |
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| Posted by: Lazer |
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| Tuesday, January 7th 2003 @ 11:26:08 AM PST |
| You can always progress on drums, asswipe. No one is a perfect drummer except maybe Buddy Rich.... And plants like manure... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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| Tuesday, January 7th 2003 @ 11:50:02 AM PST |
| are you in lupus or something joe? holy fuck please you fuckstained geriatric bed pan tell me you're not, TWO MOTHER FUCKERS FROM THIS BAND POSTING ON HERE?!??! |
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| Posted by: Bruce Campbell |
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| Tuesday, January 7th 2003 @ 12:12:13 PM PST |
| They don't have a drummer. I guess it's not a band. Even Somin and Garfunkle had a drummer...... |
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| Posted by: Ty Smith |
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